Tennessee Road Game

The hardest part about going to an away game is figuring out what your tailgate plans are.  Knoxville is a relatively easy three hour drive from Atlanta, four hour drive from Athens, and 25 years from both places.  Last I checked, there were some hotels a relatively short drive from Knoxvegas, keeping in mind that getting out of downtown there is like leaving Atlanta, but no mass transit, only one interstate and more donkey carts. 

Getting in shouldn't be that big of a deal with a 7pm kickoff.  There are some open tailgate options, with the best one I've seen being the Hedges2Hardwood's soire.  Contact them for more info.  They promise coozies. UGA's official spot will probably be the Knoxville Marriott.  It is also my experience that if you can get past the nasty orange, Tennessee fans are always happy to share their hooch. 

I mean moonshine.  Not their lady companions.  Gotta keep it in the family.

TD

Tailgating Success

Apparently, we are playing nicely together again.  UGA made comments about how tailgaters cleaned up this week.  That they commented on it positively is a good sign. 

I noticed a considerable number of trash and recylcling bins distributed around.  I also noted that people had done a better job of cleaning up their tailgating sites after the game. The crowd got started later than I would have thought, especially for a 4:30 game, so that could have something to do with it.  Still, cleaning up after ourselves is a good start to getting the Stasi approved rules imposed on us relaxed.  

Don't blow this

UGA announced yesterday that they are relaxing tailgate restrictions on North Campus. Most of the changes make sense ... allowing you to tailgate for 5 hours instead of 4 and bringing tents and tables back.

But I still don't get why they haven't banned Styrofoam coolers. If they allow disposable equipment on campus and continually fail to provide adequate trash cans, why are they shocked that drunk people make such a mess? I'm not justifying the mess. I'm just saying...they aren't playing to the strengths and weaknesses of their target audience.

Also no word on trailers being allowed back on campus. Here's hoping that eventually gets resolved.

PWD

Advice Needed: Georgia vs. Florida Game Water Taxi?

Dawgnoxious and I are thinking of ditching our long standing Adams Street tailgate spot in favor of pre-gaming at a local bar and then going to the game via Water Taxi. We'd rather not drive to or from the stadium.

So my question is...how do we do that? Who do I talk to? What websites can you guys hook me up with?

We're staying in Deerwood Park this year which is east of the River. For those not familiar with the city, we're South of the stadium on I-95 between the interstate and the beach.

We're game for partying anywhere east/south of the stadium near a water taxi location. Ideally, there would be a lot of other Dawg fans tailgating with us. And we don't want to fight traffic to get to the bar...ideally.

Please post your suggestions in the comments.

Thanks!

Paul Westerdawg and Dawgnoxious

Bourbon to Check Out

A few months ago, I tried a small batch bourbon called "Old Pogue Master's Select." A friend of the blog (and of the distillers) brought a bottle to a tailgate last season for Dawgnoxious and I to try. We were blown away. (Image: GotBourbon.com)

As BulldoginExile told me after he tried it, the flavors of honey and butter are so unexpected as to really impress. I'm not typically a guy that drinks his bourbon neat, but Pogue was so smooth that it worked incredibly well for our initial tasting(s).

I bring it up now because I saw that the package store in Athens next door to Five and Ten restaurant now carries it in stock. So, I no longer have to order online or have friends bring me a bottle when they are in the Midwest.

Just something to consider as you ponder life's meaning or the impact of the 3-4 on UGA's defense as we wait for football season to return.

PWD

Note: This is not a paid endorsement. And yes, I'm still a Maker's Mark fan.

One last thought on tailgating rules

I read hundreds of blog comments, editorials, articles and message board posts about the new tailgate rules over the past several weeks. Here's my only remaining question.

There were 70 tons of garbage left on North Campus after a single game last year. In reading all of those articles and comments, how is it possible that there wasn't a single post anywhere from a person saying, "You know what. I wish I had picked up my trash."

How can a group of fans make such a mess and that results in so much that they find important and fun being taken from them and not have a single one express any regret over their own actions or accept any responsibility for the outcome? That just blows me away. But I guess that explains the problem.

PWD

New Tailgate Rules for 2010 Season

This is a breaking story regarding new Tailgate Rules for Georgia Football games...particularly North Campus...but the big news is:

1. Tailgating on North Campus will only begin 4 hours before kickoff. There are also extensive restrictions on what can be brought on North Campus including a ban of:
Tents
Kegs
Generators
Televisions
Amplified music
Grills or cookers of any type
Tables larger than 4 ft. long
Household furniture (folding chairs not included)

2. A ban on pull behind trailers and cookers for all campus parking lots. Yes, Dawgnoxious, this totally and completely screws us.

To the students, young alumni and other people who completely made an a$$ of themselves on North Campus and the folks of all ages all over the rest campus who couldn't bring a damn trash bag or two to their tailgate to clean up their mess resulting in greater restrictions for everyone, I say. Nice work a$$holes.

PWD

Tailgating on North Campus...your days are numbered

It's one thing to empty a dumpster on your bitter enemy's front yard. It's another thing to empty one on your own yard. One makes you a mean prankster. The other makes you a stupid slob and a horse's ass. There's no excuse for leaving North Campus looking like this.

And this wasn't the work of hobos or homeless people post game. This was what it looked like because the students and recent alumni who tailgate on North Campus made it look this way. Sweeping changes are needed to protect North Campus. Some or all of the following options need to be on the table at this point:

• Banning tailgating on North Campus
  
  
• Pay for Play tailgating in a limited number of labeled spots with fines for littering in that spot. This is my favorite option.
  
  
• Banning Styrofoam Coolers on the Entire Campus. This is a no brainer The cost of buying one is so low, there's no reason to not just abandon it at the end of the tailgate. As you can see from the image above, North Campus is littered with Styrofoam Coolers.

The Athletic Department also needs to step up and invest in more trash bins. They are bringing the fans to town. They have a $28 million surplus. They need to help us keep the place cleaner. The University shouldn't be the one stroking that check. It should be the AD.

We had to go a long ass way out of our way on Saturday to get a trash bin for our very large tailgate. There just aren't enough bins. However, even without more bins fans can and should bag their own garbage. Just dropping it where you stand is completely unacceptable.

It's a damn joke what's happening on North Campus. And if you tailgate there, your days are numbered if the UK game ends the same way the Auburn game did in terms of filth. And even people like myself and Dawgnoxious who hate Mike Adams would stand behind him on his efforts to protect North Campus from what appears to be a massive group of idiots with no home training whatsoever who tailgate there.

See Also:
-- Slum Dogs - Augusta Chronicle
-- Time to Crack Down on tailgate Trash - AJC

PWD

Chick-Fil-A at your tailgate (reminder)

Once again, you're encouraged to pick up some Chick-fil-A for your time in Athens this weekend. LSU fans know their cajun food, but there's nothing like some good Georgia chicken to compliment your tailgate.

You can order trays of nuggets, strips, sandwiches, wraps, brownies, etc. from Chick-fil-A at Beechwood in Athens, and they'll have it ready for you on game day.

Your contact is Chris at cfabeechwood@gmail.com to place an order or get some general info.

God bless the chicken sandwich.

PWD

Full Disclosure: This is a compensated endorsement, but I'm practically a Chick-Fil-A evangelist so it's still from the heart.

Gameday Garbage Bag Drive

Business Frat to Help Tailgaters Keep Campus Clean

(Press Release)

Alpha Kappa Psi, a national co-ed business fraternity will host their first “Gameday Garbage Bag Drive” this Saturday, September 26th in response to the growing problem of tailgate litter.

Students, alumni, and citizens of Athens were devastated by the sheer amount of waste left behind on the University of Georgia’s campus after the UGA/USC football game two weeks ago.

“We have one of them most beautiful campuses in the country,” said Brian Huff, Warden of Alpha Kappa Psi. “When I saw the now infamous video footage of North Campus that was taken following the South Carolina game, I was ashamed. It is my hope that through this drive, we can keep campus cleaner in the future."

On gameday, volunteers from the fraternity will venture onto campus to distribute two types of garbage bags in order to make recycling more accessible for fans. Clear garbage bags to signify recyclable materials and opaque garbage bags to signify non-recyclable waste.

Alpha Kappa Psi’s house, located at the intersection of Baxter St. and Milledge Ave., has set up large bins on the front porch in order to accept garbage bags from fellow students. In addition, the fraternity is asking for monetary donations from Alumni and friends of the University. Financial contributions to the drive, in any amount, will go towards bulk purchases of clear bags for recyclable items.

The Chick-fil-A restaurant at Beechwood and Jittery Joe’s Coffee have already pledged generous bag contributions. Alpha Kappa Psi would like to thank these stores and invite other local businesses to participate in the drive.

“UGA fans are a people of pride,” said Thorne Brown, President of Alpha Kappa Psi. “We can show that same pride in the way we treat our campus. You don’t show your pride just by wearing UGA’s colors—you show it by keeping your campus clean.”

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To make a monetary donation to the Gameday Garbage Bag Drive, pay online with PayPal at http://www.terry.uga.edu/akpsi

Hairy Dawg on Tailgating

Saturday is a very big day for the future of tailgating at UGA. Particularly for those of you who tailgate on North Campus. Just bring some bags and put your crap in it. It's not like they are asking you to drive you trash to the county dump before kickoff. Just bag your stuff.

It's your choice. If you want something like The Grove at Ole Miss, you have to treat North Campus with respect. If you want something like a NASCAR infield, you can kiss tailgating in that area as we know it now goodbye.

It's up to you.

PWD

Chick-Fil-A at your tailgate...

If you're headed up to Athens this weekend for the game, you might look into picking up some Chick-fil-A trays for your tailgate.

You can order trays of nuggets, strips, sandwiches, wraps, brownies, etc. from Chick-fil-A at Beechwood in Athens, and they'll have it ready for you on game day, or any other day for that matter.

Contact Chris at cfabeechwood@gmail.com to place an order. He handles all the catering and tray orders, and he'll take care of you.

Enjoy your tailgates this weekend and let's make sure to keep campus clean.

PWD


Full Disclosure: This is a compensated endorsement, but I'm practically a Chick-Fil-A evangelist so it's still from the heart.

UGA Asks Fans to Help Manage Gameday Trash

UGA released the statement below to season ticket holders this afternoon:

Subject: UGA Seeks Community Cooperation to Manage Game Day Trash
From: ugatickets@sports.uga.edu
Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:23 pm

Athens, Ga. - "If you bring it in, please take it out." That's the mantra the University of Georgia is asking its football fans to adopt in an effort to control the amount of trash littering campus on a football Saturday. And if they can't take it out, at least bag it and place it in a trash receptacle or dumpster.

"I believe the students, alumni and fans who attend UGA football games do love and respect this beautiful campus," said UGA President Michael F. Adams. "And I fully expect that they will do their part to clean up after themselves and to ensure that others around them do the same."

The university plans to distribute 12,000 trash bags in parking lots and around campus this Saturday before the Georgia Bulldogs play host to the Arizona State Sun Devils in a 7 p.m. kickoff. Volunteers from the Fellowship of Christian Athletes will walk through tailgating areas distributing trash bags and encouraging tailgaters to bag their trash and deposit it in an appropriate receptacle. The number of disposable trash boxes on North Campus will be increased to 400 from the previous 250, and over the entire campus to 1,500 from the previous 1,200. Several large roll-off dumpsters will be placed strategically around campus for tailgaters to dispose of their bagged trash.

Additionally, the firm that contracts to clean the campus on Sundays following a football game - American Stadiums - will send crews on an initial sweep through North Campus during the first quarter of remaining games this season to pick up trash already collected and set aside by tailgaters.

The number of Port-a-Johns available on campus also will be increased, particularly in the North Campus area which has been problematic.

"Before people head to the game for kickoff, we hope they'll pick up around their tailgate area, bag the trash, and either place it in their vehicle to carry home or place it in one of our trash receptacles or dumpsters," said George Stafford, associate vice president for auxiliary and administrative services, who oversees game day operations outside Sanford Stadium itself. Fans should encourage those around them to do the same, he added. "It will take the community working together to accomplish this," he said. "People who profess to care about UGA should help take care of UGA."

It looks like the University got the message that garbage cans and toilets were in short supply on North Campus. Now the fans need to do our part.

Decision Time on World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party

UPDATE: It looks like the game will stay in Jax. Tim Tucker reports Damon is expected to recommend a six-year contract to the Athletic Board. Damon: "I strongly believe staying in Jacksonville at this time is the most appropriate thing to do." Il Duce is "in full support" of Damon's recommendation. Now all we have to do is win. GATA!

***Original Post***
The AJC reports that the UGA Athletic Board is scheduled to make a decision on the location of the Georgia-Florida game at its meeting today.

The location of the game has been a matter of intense debate among Georgia fans for several months now. PWD persuasively argued in March against moving the game. Go re-read PWD's take, because he nails it.

I am cautiously optimistic that this quadrennial waffling on the part of UGA is just a negotiating tactic for getting a better deal from the City of Jacksonville. Back in June future NCAA President Il Duce said, "[t]here are things we want yet out of the city of Jacksonville that can even the playing field a bit.” Like better coaching and better players over the last two decades? That's hardly Jacksonville's fault, but I digress.

This photo never gets old. Courtesy of Josh Massey.

Georgia has been successful posturing to leave Jax in the past. For example, we currently get $100K more than Florida to defray travel costs. However, I will be deeply disappointed if the Athletic Board votes to move this game out of Jacksonville. Neither of the other options are very appealing. The Georgia Dome is smaller and has the atmosphere of a podiatrist's office, and the notion of bringing those asshats to Athens every other year is repulsive.

It's hard to predict what Adams and his Board values more. By moving the game he gets a belated victory in his war to scrap the WLOCP moniker, but keeping the game in Jax generates UGA about $1 million more every two years. I'm guessing we'll see another 4 year deal to stay in Jacksonville.

When cocktail parties are outlawed, only outlaws will have cocktail parties

Night Games and the SEC TV Contract

Mmmmm.....Night Games (Image: BusinessWeek)
David Paschall of the Chattanooga Times Free Press wrote a lengthy, informative article about the new SEC TV contract and the rise in night games going forward. The article states:

Last season, 54.2 percent of games involving SEC teams (52 of 96) had morning or afternoon kickoffs. This season, only 39.6 percent (38 of 96) are projected as daytime starts.

On a typical week, you're going to have about 6 SEC games televised. They will be picked in this order*:

1. CBS 3:30
2. ESPN Night Game (7 pm or later)
3. ESPN2 Night Game (7 pm or later)
4. ESPNU Night Game (7 pm or later)
5. ESPN-Regional 12:21 PN
6. Fox Sports South or CSS (7 pm or later)
7. Any other games would be at night.

In other words, on a typical week 2 of 6 games in the day time. That's because the CBS 3:30 pm start is an exclusive time slot with only a limited exceptions number of exceptions per year for twilight starts on the ESPN Networks at 6:30 or 6:00 pm.

The bigger exceptions are the two CBS double header weekends. This year those exceptions are Oct. 10th (3:30 and 8:00 kickoffs for CBS) and Nov. 14th (3:30 and 12 pm). The 8:00 pm kickoff has always been an exclusive time slot for CBS. That means ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPU would in theory have to run day games if they want to show other games.

What does that mean for the Dawgs Kickoff Times:
The short answer...there are 33% more night games per season across the league. With the top half of the league logically getting an unbalanced larger share of those games at night. So instead of getting 1-2 night games per season in Athens you can expect about 3 going forward.

Our Oct. 10th game vs. Tennessee in Knoxville will likely be at noon on one of the ESPN Cable Networks as the double header will more likely be UF at LSU (8:00 pm) and Bama at Ole Miss (3:30 pm). Playing the Vols at noon as the road team would be a good thing for UGA. That's what time the Hobnail Boot game kicked off, and the big Vol crowd would be more docile.

It also means that the Auburn home game could kickoff at noon on CBS. UF at SC sounds like a 3:30 pm game. The other big games of the day which would be a candidate for the CBS noon slot are AU at UGA and UT at Ole Miss. Starting vs. AU at noon would suck, but...

The UK at UGA game looks like a night game now. The big CBS game of the day on Nov. 21st is LSU at Ole Miss.

My revised Bulldog Schedule Projections:

Date	Opponent	TV Network	Time	Confirmed?	Tickets
9/5	at Oklahoma St.	ABC	3:30	Yes	Tickets
9/12	vs. S. Carolina	ESPN2	7:00	Yes	Tickets
9/19	at Arkansas	ESPN/ESPN2	7:45	Yes	Tickets
9/26	vs. Arizona St.	No Idea	TBD	No Idea**	Tickets
10/3	vs. LSU	CBS	3:30	Estimated	Tickets
10/10	at Tennessee	ESPN2/ESPNU	12:00	Estimated	Tickets
10/17	at Vanderbilt	ESPNU	7:00	Estimated	Tickets
10/24	BYE WEEK
10/31	vs. Florida (Jax)	CBS	3:30	Yes	Tickets
11/7	vs. Tenn. Tech	PPV	1:00	Estimated	Tickets
11/14	vs. Auburn	CBS	12:00	Estimated	Tickets
11/21	vs. Kentucky	ESPN2/ESPNU	7:00	Estimated	Tickets
11/28	at Georgia Tech	ABC	3:30	Estimated	Tickets

*Not every station will pick every week, but that's a good rough estimation.

**ASU vs. UGA will depend on how Georgia does the first three games. Arkansas at Alabama is another strong game that day. We could be a night game or a 3:30 start. I lean towards this being at night.

See Also:
-- JimFromDuluth's TV Projections - Anti-Orange Page
-- 2009 SEC Composite Schedule
-- Play more games at night - Bulldog Illustrated
-- Georgia Bulldogs 2009 Football Tickets

PWD

Tailgating with the Vol Navy in Knoxville?

I personally think the Vol Navy is one of the cooler and more underrated traditions in the SEC, and I'd like to get a closer look at that signature Knoxville experience.

In the past, I think that I've seen Dawg fans with boats docked at Neyland Stadium alongside the Volunteer Navy. So my question is...how do I tailgate with some of you guys? I'll bring the bourbon/beer, and I'd be happy to document your boat's awesomeness on the blog for the rest of the SEC to behold, admire and/or covet.

Shoot me an email if you're interested in talking:
decaturdawg (at] hotmail (dot] com

Heck...if you're a good natured Vol Fan looking to show off your boat pregame, I'd like to talk with you, too. Especially if you're the owner of one of the larger boats.

PWD

Tailgating with the Vol Navy in Knoxville?

I personally think the Vol Navy is one of the cooler and more underrated traditions in the SEC, and I'd like to get a closer look at that signature Knoxville experience.

In the past, I think that I've seen Dawg fans with boats docked at Neyland Stadium alongside the Volunteer Navy. So my question is...how do I tailgate with some of you guys? I'll bring the bourbon/beer, and I'd be happy to document your boat's awesomeness on the blog for the rest of the SEC to behold, admire and/or covet.

Shoot me an email if you're interested in talking:
decaturdawg (at] hotmail (dot] com

Heck...if you're a good natured Vol Fan looking to show off your boat pregame, I'd like to talk with you, too. Especially if you're the owner of one of the larger boats.

PWD

The World's Largest Indoor Cocktail Party?

Image: DawgBone.net
The Atlanta Business Chronicle reports that the Atlanta Sports Council and the Georgia Bulldogs are in discussions about possibly moving the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party to the Georgia Dome at least once every four years.

(UPDATE: The AJC talked to Damon Evans. He says that there are no discussions to move the game. The rest of this post is the original note on the subject)

I'm pretty sure that the current contract expires in 2010, but all parties involved like to have the contract renewed before Year 3 of the 4 year deal starts. In other words....now.

Here's why I'm against this:

• We don't lose because of the location - The City of Jacksonville didn't cause Terrence Edwards to drop a game tying catching in 2002. It didn't cause Quincy Carter to throw the INT before the half in 2000. It didn't call timeout in the rain in '93. It didn't fumble the kickoff to start the second half in 2006. It didn't bust Shockley's knee before the game in 2005. We lose when we go down there because we don't play well. We could play the Gators on the moon, and we will lose if we wet the bed at first sight of an Orange helmet with script letters.
  
  
• Access to Tickets in Atlanta - The current cut-off for tickets is over 10,000 Hartman points. Some of the demand for tickets is suppressed because it's logistically and financially cumbersome to get to Jacksonville from the Atlanta area -- where the vast majority of our fans live. There would be dramatically more demand for tickets to a game in Atlanta. The listed ticket prices, the secondary market and the Hartman cut-off for the tickets would explode due to increased demand.
  
  
• The Dome is Smaller -- Capacity at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium is 84,000 for UGA vs. UF. The record crowd at the Georgia Dome is 75,000. That's roughly 11 percent fewer seats. Cutting 4,500 tickets out of the UGA allotment would be a real problem.
  
  
• The Dome has ZERO personality -- Part of the appeal of the game in Jacksonville is the party. 75,000 people can't tailgate in Atlanta the way we do in Jacksonville.
  
  
• Access to Florida Talent -- I'd like Mark Richt to explain how Alabama and Clemson playing games in Atlanta is good for their recruiting in Georgia and bad for UGA. While UGA playing games in Florida isn't a good thing for us.
  
  
• We're chicken shit if we leave -- This would be the first step in running us out of Jacksonville.

Georgia fans didn't complain about the location when Dooley won 17 of 25 contests against the lizards.

I assume most of this is posturing for a better deal from the City of Jacksonville. I'm all for that especially in light of what other neutral site games are paying their participants. But a long term move away from this most excellent tradition makes no sense to me.

Recruit better players. Win the game. Stop making excuses.

See Also:
-- Another reason to stay in Jax - GTP
-- Orson's take on this - EDSBS

PWD

The World's Largest Indoor Cocktail Party?

Image: DawgBone.net
The Atlanta Business Chronicle reports that the Atlanta Sports Council and the Georgia Bulldogs are in discussions about possibly moving the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party to the Georgia Dome at least once every four years.

(UPDATE: The AJC talked to Damon Evans. He says that there are no discussions to move the game. The rest of this post is the original note on the subject)

I'm pretty sure that the current contract expires in 2010, but all parties involved like to have the contract renewed before Year 3 of the 4 year deal starts. In other words....now.

Here's why I'm against this:

• We don't lose because of the location - The City of Jacksonville didn't cause Terrence Edwards to drop a game tying catching in 2002. It didn't cause Quincy Carter to throw the INT before the half in 2000. It didn't call timeout in the rain in '93. It didn't fumble the kickoff to start the second half in 2006. It didn't bust Shockley's knee before the game in 2005. We lose when we go down there because we don't play well. We could play the Gators on the moon, and we will lose if we wet the bed at first sight of an Orange helmet with script letters.
  
  
• Access to Tickets in Atlanta - The current cut-off for tickets is over 10,000 Hartman points. Some of the demand for tickets is suppressed because it's logistically and financially cumbersome to get to Jacksonville from the Atlanta area -- where the vast majority of our fans live. There would be dramatically more demand for tickets to a game in Atlanta. The listed ticket prices, the secondary market and the Hartman cut-off for the tickets would explode due to increased demand.
  
  
• The Dome is Smaller -- Capacity at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium is 84,000 for UGA vs. UF. The record crowd at the Georgia Dome is 75,000. That's roughly 11 percent fewer seats. Cutting 4,500 tickets out of the UGA allotment would be a real problem.
  
  
• The Dome has ZERO personality -- Part of the appeal of the game in Jacksonville is the party. 75,000 people can't tailgate in Atlanta the way we do in Jacksonville.
  
  
• Access to Florida Talent -- I'd like Mark Richt to explain how Alabama and Clemson playing games in Atlanta is good for their recruiting in Georgia and bad for UGA. While UGA playing games in Florida isn't a good thing for us.
  
  
• We're chicken shit if we leave -- This would be the first step in running us out of Jacksonville.

Georgia fans didn't complain about the location when Dooley won 17 of 25 contests against the lizards.

I assume most of this is posturing for a better deal from the City of Jacksonville. I'm all for that especially in light of what other neutral site games are paying their participants. But a long term move away from this most excellent tradition makes no sense to me.

Recruit better players. Win the game. Stop making excuses.

See Also:
-- Another reason to stay in Jax - GTP
-- Orson's take on this - EDSBS

PWD

UGA and Knowshon Pumpkins

I was asked earlier in the week about this. I only got three responses, but they are really good. Here they are.


The first one comes from the guys at BloggingPantsless. They have instructions up for how they made their Knowshon Moreno pumpkin.

Along that same Knowshon Pumpkin path, there's this one from Laura R. I assume you would go about making the stencil pretty much the same way the Pantsless guys did. Just use the opposite cutting technique.




The G comes from Jenn W. of Dacula.


Thanks for sending these in.

PWD